How can i calculate e^A*t
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How can i calculate e^A*t without using Markov Chain?
Where e=exp , A is a square matrix, and t is a variable
11 Commenti
Wayne King
il 30 Mag 2012
When you say t is a variable, what do you mean? what is the dimension of t?
Nick
il 31 Mag 2012
Walter Roberson
il 31 Mag 2012
What deeper meaning? It's a formula presented outside of any context. Are you asking for the deeper meaning of why MATLAB uses exp(x) to represent e^x ?
Elad
il 31 Mag 2012
Using the dot after A, means it will multiply each element in the matrix separately.
Walter Roberson
il 31 Mag 2012
If t is a scalar then using the dot or not using the dot means the same thing. Using the dot makes a difference when neither A nor t are scalar.
Oleg Komarov
il 31 Mag 2012
My crystall ball tells me that Nick is looking for a deeeeper meeaninnggg... deeeeeeeperr..
Walter Roberson
il 31 Mag 2012
Perhaps Nick is data mining? I wonder what he will unearth?
ABCD
il 29 Set 2016
Dear Nick, do you mean this?
>> a = [1 2 3 ; 2 5 2; 1 4 3]
a =
1 2 3
2 5 2
1 4 3
>> syms t
>> exp(a*t)
ans =
[ exp(t), exp(2*t), exp(3*t)]
[ exp(2*t), exp(5*t), exp(2*t)]
[ exp(t), exp(4*t), exp(3*t)]
CHENG WEI SHEN
il 12 Giu 2022
???
Walter Roberson
il 12 Giu 2022
Please expand on your question ?
Walter Roberson
il 10 Lug 2025
Looking back, I am wondering whether the '*' is intended to represent conjugate transpose, so MATLAB
exp(A' * t)
or perhaps
expm(A' * t)
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Kye Taylor
il 31 Mag 2012
10 voti
Use the expm function for computing a matrix exponential
4 Commenti
KJ N
il 9 Nov 2017
To help anyone else coming here: ignore all the other answers saying to use exp. Using expm is the right one for this situation. If you want to compute the matrix exponential e^(A t), where A is a n x n square matrix and t is a variable, and you DO NOT want to do simply do the by-element exponential, i.e., you want to compute the equivalent of the inverse Laplace of s*eye(n)-A, which is important in state-space analysis of linear systems, you want to use expm(A*t), not exp(A*t).
>> A = [0 1; -2 -3]
A =
0 1
-2 -3
>> syms t;expm(A*t)
ans =
[ 2*exp(-t) - exp(-2*t), exp(-t) - exp(-2*t)]
[ 2*exp(-2*t) - 2*exp(-t), 2*exp(-2*t) - exp(-t)]
>> syms s;ilaplace(inv(s*eye(rank(A))-A))
ans =
[ 2*exp(-t) - exp(-2*t), exp(-t) - exp(-2*t)]
[ 2*exp(-2*t) - 2*exp(-t), 2*exp(-2*t) - exp(-t)]
Walter Roberson
il 9 Nov 2017
Kaleb Nelson, no: the poster said above https://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/answers/39854-how-can-i-calculate-e-a-t#comment_82495 that exp(A.*t) is the correct solution.
KJ N
il 9 Nov 2017
exp() only does computes the exponential of A element-by-element, as shown above like this: >> a = [1 2 3 ; 2 5 2; 1 4 3]
a =
1 2 3
2 5 2
1 4 3
>> syms t
>> exp(a*t)
ans =
[ exp(t), exp(2*t), exp(3*t)]
[ exp(2*t), exp(5*t), exp(2*t)]
[ exp(t), exp(4*t), exp(3*t)]
If that's what you're going for, that's great, but not terribly difficult to compute by hand for even somewhat large n x n matrices with integer elements. However, the original poster said they wanted to avoid using the markov chain (a somewhat onerous process, especially when done by hand for large matrices, even with simple integer values as the elements), leading me to understand they were referring to the matrix exponential, not the element-by-element exponential, hence the correct answer in this case would be to use expm(). I had been looking for the same answer, and Kye Taylor was the only post saying use expm instead of exp, so I thought I would try to ensure those in the future looking for the same answer as myself would be helped by a clarification.
Walter Roberson
il 9 Nov 2017
We tried a number of times to get the original poster to clarify, but all we got was that they want the exp() solution and that they are looking for a "deeper reason" for something. The poster effectively defined the exp() solution as being the correct one.
Your analysis might well be what the poster really needed, but it is contrary to what little they defined as being correct for their needs.
Junsheng SU
il 28 Nov 2017
6 voti
syms t; expm(A*t);
1 Commento
Lars Nagel
il 17 Ago 2019
Worked perfectly for me!
I guess it is not always possible to get the close form solution of exp(At)...
Sometimes I can get result with: exp(At) = iL(sI-A)^-1, where iL is the inverse Laplace transformation, like:
syms s t
A = [0 1;0 0];
expAt = ilaplace(inv(s*eye(size(A,1))-A),s,t);
This will give the result as: [1 t;0 1]
Any other ideas?
Shahram Bekhrad
il 8 Giu 2012
0 voti
As far as I'm aware you probably need it for finding the answer of a state space equation. I myself couldn't find any good function or command yet, so you might have to write a Script file (m-file) and find it. you can use about 3 or 4 way of calculating the said statement. These things are taught in courses like modern control theory. I used the following expression but still have some difficulties. exp(A.t)=I+At+ (At)^2/2! + (At)^3/3!+ (At)^4/4!+. . .
ABCD
il 29 Set 2016
Dear Nick, do you mean this?
>> a = [1 2 3 ; 2 5 2; 1 4 3]
a =
1 2 3
2 5 2
1 4 3
>> syms t >> exp(a*t)
ans =
[ exp(t), exp(2*t), exp(3*t)] [ exp(2*t), exp(5*t), exp(2*t)] [ exp(t), exp(4*t), exp(3*t)]
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ABCD
il 29 Set 2016
>> a = [1 2 3 ; 2 5 2; 1 4 3]
a =
1 2 3
2 5 2
1 4 3
>> syms t
>> exp(a*t)
ans =
[ exp(t), exp(2*t), exp(3*t)]
[ exp(2*t), exp(5*t), exp(2*t)]
[ exp(t), exp(4*t), exp(3*t)]
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