symsum and a divergent series
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Dimitrios Anagnostou
il 9 Feb 2023
Commentato: Torsten
il 14 Feb 2023
I apologize if I'm asking something trivial.
I know that symsum can be used for series. For instance,
syms k
symsum(2^k/factorial(k),k,1,Inf)
The series whose general term is is a divergent one. When I try symsum with this series I get
symsum(log(k+1)/k,k,1,Inf)
Matlab return the series unevaluated. However, I wanted a behavior similar to Mathematica's.
Sum[Log[r + 1]/r, {r, 1, Infinity}]
% Output During evaluation of In[1]:= Sum::div: Sum does not converge.
Is it possible to get such an output from Matlab's Symbolic Math Toolbox? Thank you very much in advance!
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John D'Errico
il 9 Feb 2023
Modificato: John D'Errico
il 9 Feb 2023
Is it possible? Well, yes. And, sometimes, no.
But you can always use Mathematica. What else can I say?
When symsum returns a result that is the same as what you passed in, this is its way of telling you that no solution could be found, at least not by that tool. symsum does not always offer the ability to tell you a series is divergent, as opposed to merely not convergent.
In some cases of course, symsum has no problem. As you see here, symsum can at least some of the time return the result you want.
syms n
symsum(1./n,1,inf)
That last sum is unbounded, greater than any finite number, so an INF. But next, symsum is smart enough to know the difference, for a classically problematic series.
symsum(sin(n),0,inf)
Yes, that series is divergent, and MATLAB knew the sum is not unbounded, but that no value can be applied to the sum. So it returned NaN. to indicate the difference between an unbounded sum and one which can be only represented as NaN. But then we have this sum.
symsum(n,1,inf)
DRAT. I could have sworn that Ramanujan proved the latter sum to be -1/12? Maybe I should send Ramanujan a letter pointing out that symsum disagrees? ;-) I would send it to G.H. Hardy of course, who might be able to forward it.
Anyway, that symsum fails to tell you a series was divergent is not always conclusive. It is only conclusive that symsum did not know the answer.
symsum(log(n+1)./n,1,inf)
Computers are not omniscient. (Except when they play chess against me. Then they just laugh hysterically.)
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Dyuman Joshi
il 9 Feb 2023
Modificato: Dyuman Joshi
il 10 Feb 2023
An insightful answer, @John D'Errico
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Dimitrios Anagnostou
il 14 Feb 2023
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Torsten
il 14 Feb 2023
But MATLAB should also show Inf as result for
syms x k
symsum(log(k+1)/k,k,1,Inf)
But it doesn't.
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