y = randsample(population,k)

Please, I need to know the name of algorithm used by MATLAB 'randsample' function for the random selection without replacement

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riad didou
riad didou il 12 Ago 2020
Modificato: riad didou il 12 Ago 2020
But i can't find the name of the algorithm for the randsample (i didn't mean the RNG function)!
Adam Danz
Adam Danz il 12 Ago 2020
Modificato: Adam Danz il 12 Ago 2020
But my answer tells you how to find that.
The answer explains that the syntax you're using in randsample is using randperm which uses a uniform pseudorandom number generator of which there are several types. See the "To determine which one you're using..." section to learn how to find which type you're using.

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Bruno Luong
Bruno Luong il 12 Ago 2020
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Adam Danz
Adam Danz il 12 Ago 2020
Modificato: Adam Danz il 12 Ago 2020
Thanks for pointing to that discussion, Bruno Luong. Note that this algorithm still depends on the random number generator state settings as I tried to explain in this answer but knowing about the Fisher-Yates-Durstenfeld shuffle (FYD) is useful.
For OP, the FYD can be understood as randomly drawing k values from a hat containing n values where k<n. The "random" part uses the rng settings.
For example,
% Use the default Mersenne Twister(mt19937ar) with seed 9999
rng(9999, 'twister')
randsample(100,8)'
% ans =
% 43 61 83 55 4 16 22 19
% You can repeate those two lines and will get the same values.
% Now change the random number generator to Combined multiple recursive (mrg32k3a) with the same seed
rng(9999, 'combRecursive')
randsample(100,8)'
% ans =
% 80 9 63 42 78 13 89 71
% You can repeate those two lines and will get the same values but note how they differ from the Mersenne Twister.
% Reset generator back to default
rng('default')
Maybe the OP didn't intend to dig that deeply.
riad didou
riad didou il 12 Ago 2020
Modificato: riad didou il 12 Ago 2020
for example: i have a set of 20 samples and i would like to select 7 samples with 'randsample' function without introducing 'rng' function ; so how the algorithm pick these 7 samples ?because even if we don't use a random number generator the algorithm still working ! did you get my question
Bruno Luong
Bruno Luong il 12 Ago 2020
Read the pseudo code on the wikipedia link I posted above.
Adam Danz
Adam Danz il 12 Ago 2020
Modificato: Adam Danz il 12 Ago 2020
@riad didou, if you plan on using Matlab's randsample function, you will be relying on a random number generator.
I don't know how else to explain it other than this:
If you call randsample(n,k) or randsample(population, k), that function uses the randperm function whether you want it to or not. According to Matlab's document which I mentioned in the original thread, "The sequence of numbers produced by randperm is determined by the internal settings of the uniform pseudorandom number generator".
"Even if we don't use a random number generator the algorithm still working"
That's not true. The link Bruno provided vaguely describes that values from your array are "randomly" chosen. That requires you to use a random process which is what the random number generator is. Even if you write your own version that doesn't use rng() you'll still need to replace it with some kind of random processes.
Maybe it would help to know your end goal. If the goal it to write about it in a methods section of a paper, I wonder what bits of information you're missing. Many people just write that the function randsample was used in Matlab and they they cite Mathworks but you'd need to document the generator type and seed for reproducibility.

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